Since making every supplement or any vitamin requires tons of “processing water” to concentrate the product into a pill. The process also concentrates trace toxins, such as heavy metals, which can even be found in very clean water, into toxic levels when making a pill. Even the cleanest of water has some trace, small amounts of heavy metals and other toxins. Since, humans are not filter feeders like whales, who, in design process 10,000 gallons of water during a feeding. The supplements or any vitamin is a manufacturing processes that forces humans into being filter feeders, this is not the design of our bodies and we quickly become toxic.
But, Protandim was designed by the manufacture to have a bad reaction. Now, I do not have a lab to test if this is a Nerve Toxin or just a simple Snaps Blocker like lithium. I talk about both possibilities below. Although, a nerve toxin would also act as a Snaps blockers, so both issues need to be mentioned. Below, I did my best to explain the chemistry and reaction to someone that does not do science.
There a 5 plant ingredients in Protandim – Milk Thistle, Bacopa, Green Tea, Turmeric, Ashwagandha,
It is the mixture of Milk Thistle and Bacopa that produces the social, emotional side effects similar to a clinical depression or electrical shock therapy out of the 1950s. But, unlike depression, you are also energized like a child with Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD). The victim has both flat-lined their emotions and cant focus long enough to make a conversation.
Milk Thistle – “The University of Maryland Medical Center states that milk thistle may react with a variety of medications, including, anti-psychotics, anti-depressants, anti-seizure medications, blood-thinning drugs, anti-cancer agents, cholesterol-lowering drugs. If you take any medications, do not use Milk Thistle without checking with your doctor.” I will post their information at the bottom of this blog, in case the link is removed or dies.
The Bacopa flower (Bacopa monniera) is being tested as an Epilepsy drug to control seizures. See the US National Library of Medicine National Institutes of Health study posted here. I will post the web sites info at the bottom in case the link becomes dead.
India’s institute of medicine is also testing Bacopa to control seizures but the quality of the study is not up to first world standers and protocol.
Many anti-seizure drugs are utilized to treat mental conditions, such as bipolar. With bipolar the electrical brain signals cycle through being over charged and under charged, swinging the persons through emotions from happy to sad and yet back again. Here is a list of anti-seizure drugs used or investigated to treat mental conditions they include gabapentin (Neurontin), zonisamide (Zonegran) and topiramate (Topamax).
This is why the University of Maryland School of Medicine study, list both anti-psychotics and anti-seizure drugs as having side effects with Milk Thistle. The nervous system means Brain. The brain is essentially a consideration of nerves attached to a fatty gray cells which hold memories. The side effects of mixing the two, produce potent psychological effects. Similar to electrical shock treatments form the 1950s.
Although, when I see a substance like “Milk Thistle” that seems to react with everything and the kitchen sink, I have to start to point fingers at the substance. The list is so extensive and covers almost everything except tums. Milk Thistle might be an extremely weak nerve toxin which is boosted with almost anything. At the drug store the bottles state this is an herb and supplement, both of which are false statements. I think it should be listed as a poison.
Antipsychotics — includes butyrophenones (such as haloperidol) and phenothiazines (such as chlorpromazine, fluphenazine, and promethazine)
Phenytoin — a medication used for seizures
Halothane — a medication used during general anesthesia
Milk thistle may interfere with the following medications, because both milk thistle and these medications are broken down by the same liver enzymes:
Allergy drugs — such as fexofenadine (Allegra)
Drugs for high cholesterol — such as lovastatin (Mevacor, Altocor)
Anti-anxiety drugs — including alprazolam (Xanax), diazepam (Valium), and lorazepam (Ativan)
Antiplatelet and anticoagulant drugs (blood thinners) — including clopidogrel (Plavix) and warfarin (Coumadin)
Some cancer drugs
The connection between Milk Thistle and Bacopa reaction is clearly documented but goes officially unconnected. Unnoticed by the FDA, Dea drug task force or CIA Central Intelligence Agency; come on. You have the word “Intelligence” in your name and this lands on my desk top poisoning my friend.
I watched someone first hand change overnight. The reaction is breath taking. This combination will produce more single moms than alcohol abuse or Monday night football. More orphans than crack, crank and heroin. I wonder what changes occur between the protendim user and their children, do they stop functioning as a mother? Mothering requires very strong emotions on a daily bases. Are the children left at a bus station because they no longer have these strong instinctive emotional feelings of attachment? Do these moms, just leave the home, kids and family in the middle of the night, to never return? Can this explain some, or half of the missing women in Americas.
Now, how Milk Thistle chemically reacts with Bacopa in the human body is unclear. I have made an attempt to contact the The University of Maryland Medical Center and the doctor, which signed off on the study but have not had a return contact. The only thing I am beginning to count on, is no ones is accountable and no ones ever gets back to you.
It is very possible, together Milk Thistal and Bacopa create a weak toxin, one opens the doorway to the nervous system for the other toxin to damage the electrical transmission systems. If this is a Toxin, nerve and brain cells will be damaged permanently. Brain and nerve cells are non repairable cells. They do not grow back like skin cells or can repair them selves if damaged.
People with spin “nerve and brain injuries” stay this way forever. That’s right, if the poisons flowers are actually damaging the cell, or parts of the cell and not just buffering the electrical signals, than these effect are non reversible. She will be like, what she is when she stops taking the drug or likewise, is removed from a car accident injury. All changes would be permit, any strong emotional relationships, will not be possible in the future.
The difference between lithium used on psychology patients and the plant toxins utilized in Protandim, is night and day. Lithium is a periodic table element used to block over stimulated transmissions in the Brain and Nerves system. Lithium buffers the electrical signals in the SNAPs nerve endings. The difference is, lithium is a simple periodic table element that is represented by the symbol Li and belongs to the alkali metals list in the periodic table. It is easily absorbed and expelled from the human body, long term damage, no because, it is not a nerve toxin.
The mixture of herbs in Protandim represents more of a complex toxin. The Protandin nerve toxin, is more comparable to that of a poisonous snake, necrotic spider or poisonous mushroom. Snake, spider and poisonous mushrooms will permanently damage the Nerves and Brain; not just block the signal transmission. Often snake and spider bites leave long term nerve damage, this can be seen by people who are unable to even move a finger or thumb following an event. Long term paralysis of a hand, arm or leg is common. The nerve damage is permanent and long term. Mice, Rats and a science lab, would be required to test if the effects are reversible or short term. I have none of these resources at my disposable. Rain really fucked her self up in a really bad way and on my watch.
Do I trust this company to perform due diligence testing, or the FDA to regulate any bad reaction; not at all? I have sent the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) a transmission, warning of this imminent man-made epidemic and the FDA responder would not put their name on the rejection correspondence. The FDA is a failed institute, just like the post office. How long is it before every 5 minute energy drink, or Red Bull produces an herbal blend consisting, of you think, maybe some, Milk Thistle and Bacopa; I say not long? Think this is not possible? I would have never expected an herbal supplement to be a nerve toxin, but here it is in all its red, white and blue old glory, right here. And, I am so pissed.
The drug Protandim is being sold as a free radical reducer, that is basically what an antioxidant is, but it acts like a powerful psychotoxin or “sensory nerve action potentials” (SNAP), nerve blockers.
A Free Radical is an “over” negatively or positively charged element or compound. It is not in its natural state and either holds more or less electrons than it should. Free radicals are actually required in some very impotent uptake processes in the body. They are essential to the nerves system and brain function. Function meaning feeling, emotions, thought, ext. Why, because Free Radicals, or overly changed elements are more efficient at transferring electrical nerve signals across the “sensory nerve action potentials” (SNAP), the nerve and brain endings.
Research shows people who are epileptic with seizures have an over charged electrical impulses system, from too many Free Radicals, in these nerve endings. By no means, in a normal health person, is lowering the level of Free Radicals, good or beneficial, and will have longterm side effects. An example of a person with lower Free Radicals, can be seen in a state mental hospital, in a patient pushing themselves backwards around in a circle. These people don’t need these meds anymore, once the Snaps has been reprogrammed, this is the outcome. Of course, smart people have, more Free Radicals, like me. I am free and radical.
If your leg or arm, begins to tremor or quickly and uncontrollable shakes, this is the human body dispelling some of the electrical impulses, it does not need. These electrical, impulses were not required, in your body if you are just lounging around on the couch, horizontal, watching the boob-tube.
Antioxidant is a compound designed to reduce free radicals. Think of this as similar to an anode on the bottom of your boat. Current is created by the boats engine and flows to the sacrificial anode where it is dispelled. An Antioxidant would be akin to an anode slowing and reflecting the amount of electric impulses in the brain and nerves.
The nerve system and “sensory nerve action potentials” (SNAP) transfer feelings and emotions through these nerve SNAPs with a small electric current. If you introduce an Antioxidant into the system the current is diminished and you alter the victim’s feelings and emotions, happy and sad.
An Antioxidant, should dull the persons emotions and feelings. More Free Radicals and less Antioxidant should increase the level of emotions.
So an Antioxidant is a psychotoxin. Protandim planet nerve toxin is not an Antioxidant but a form of herbal terrorism. This is why on May 21, 2012 I notified the FBI task force on terrorism prevention here, https://tips.fbi.gov/thank-you-for-your-tip. No response or even a correspondence has been sent to me. They don’t even get back to you. If you don’t wear a rag on your head, you are not a terrorist.
Green Tea is definitely used to energize the depression. Concentrations of green tea are also concentrations of caffeine. The pills appear to have the same reaction of drinking three strong cups of coffee. The victim literally bonces off the walls.
The people under the influence of Protandim become extremely defensive against having any reaction. Their life can fall apart in front of them and they will not make the connection. Problems at work, in relationships are not connected to taking this supplement. It is commonly recommended that if you take any medication, and you experience major changes in life, work, relationships, car accidents to stop taking the medicine. But, people, very smart people, who take Protandim will not make this connection, even if you tell them there is a connection. In fact, mentioning anything about a negative effects of Protandim to the person, will mean they will stop calling or messaging you. This defensive reaction from the Protandim Zombie might come from another source, another toxin in the drug.
I wish I could get my hands on the pills Rain was taking, because it is really not that expensive to have them tested. My girls at the lab might even do it for free.
Green Tea concentrations can contain toxic levels of sodium fluoride, which accumulate in its leaves. Tea leaves appear to be good absorbers of toxins. Maybe ok as a tea, but not as a concentrated pill supplement, since the concentration process collects toxins. Maximum Contaminant Level (MCL) set for fluoride in drinking water is 4 parts per million (ppm). Average fluoride concentration of infusions prepared tea from decaffeinated (green & black) tea were found to be 3.19 ppm and as high as 5ppm. Simple put the concentration process, of green tea and some herbs used to make the supplements, absorbs and accumulates Fluoride from the water used in the manufacturing process.
Another problem is, Fluorides in teas are found together with aluminum. The combination of aluminum and fluorides in tea is of urgent concern, due to the increased damage done by fluorides when in the presence of aluminum, especially “neurological” and renal damage. It also increases the extent to which, aluminum can be absorbed by the body, which has been linked to Alzheimer’s disease.
Recently many fingers are beginning to point to child immunization drugs as the source to the explosion in Autism in the population. Along with Mental retardation, Learning disabilities, Communication disorders, Attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder, Conduct disorder, and Oppositional defiant disorder. The specialists are questioning the amount of Aluminum in the immunization drugs, as the possible source to the destruction of the normal nerves system and its normal functions. Since aluminum is a common bonding agent to the components in the immunization drugs, it is high on the list of a hazard. Unfortunately, the flue shot also contains aluminum, so your call there.
The next thing to ask is, what kind of processing plant have the Mormons at Lifevantage constructed? If I wanted to create a toxic pill, the processing plant would be built out of Aluminum pipes and tubs, not stainless steel. Aluminum as a mineral is ablative; it quickly tarnishes because it is losing electrons and then surface Aluminum particles; in a process similar to rusting. This is why you do not use Aluminum cooking pans and pots, unless you are an idiot; I am sure you are not alone.
Also, what are the pipes and tubs used to concentrate the pills wielded and bonded together with? Mercury, is a metal commonly found in wielding solder. It was common in solder throughout the 1970s and most solder and bonding agents have the statement on there package that reads, “Lead Free”. Is it difficult to acquire Lead or mercury solder, nope, not at all. So, the herbs in Protendim are all very good at absorbing heavy metal toxins. It appears the piping and tub are the source of metal toxins and the herbs are used as the sponge.
Different Nerve Toxins seem to attack different parts of the brain first. Some toxins effect intellect and others tend to target motor functions, emotions, reason, ects. I have been exposed to the (maximum permissible dose) of petroleum toxins as a geologist, so I have motor skill problems, the shaky hand syndrome and issues with balance. The brain noodle is still pretty strong. Now, if I was going to make a weapons grade supplement pill, I like Lifevantage, would add multiple toxins into the pill. A plant base toxin and heavy metals would be likewise, my first choice.
Exposure to heavy metal hazards like aluminum are not short term, the patient will suffer for a long period and recovery from its nerve damage, sometimes does not occur.
Aluminum acts on the nervous system similar to lead. Toxic levels of Aluminum would produce a reaction similar to children who eat lead paint. In fact all heavy metals can react at a toxic level on the nervous system and they tend to do so in a similar fashion. Lead paint can damage to the brain and nervous system and produce behavior problems such as hyperactivity, decreased mental abilities and learning problems,. Aluminum at toxic levels would react very similar. It is noted that the depression is energized in the Protandim zombie, smart people become dimensioned intellectually. They can’t even hold a conversation, and will just stare back at you without even being able to recreate a vocal response.
Miscarriages, and Premature births or low birth weight, are also a condition experienced in pregnancies.
The scariest thing is this company is targeting midwifes, to distribute this drug to their patients. Midwives make babies, these toxins make babies die, deform and abort in late stages. I know of midwives who are actively promoting and taking this drug. For the midwives, this drug is offered free. And, the method of distribution is in the Freemason or typical masonic pyramid scheme like the food pyramid.
I have not figured out the impotence of Tumeric or Ashwagandha but it must have some reasoning or is just used to hide the black magic from the other herbs. It is possible they are also good at absorbing toxins, during the concentration and pill formation process like tea leaves are. Enriching the source of heavy metals in the pills.
Tumeric – At high doses curcumin or turmeric may damage the gastrointestinal system because curcumin at doses of 100 milligrams per kilogram body weight was ulcerogenic in rats.
Ashwagandha – Many herbalist have warned that people with certain conditions should avoid using ashwagandha. People suffering from diabetes, liver diseases, digestive disorders and ulcers should not take ashwagandha
Victim needs treatment and medication, take this person to the ER for a toxic exposure evaluation.
Possible Interactions with: Milk Thistle
If you are currently being treated with any of the following medications, you should not use milk thistle without first talking to your healthcare provider.
- Antipsychotics — includes butyrophenones (such as haloperidol) and phenothiazines (such as chlorpromazine, fluphenazine, and promethazine)
- Phenytoin — a medication used for seizures
- Halothane — a medication used during general anesthesia
Milk thistle may interfere with the following medications, because both milk thistle and these medications are broken down by the same liver enzymes:
- Allergy drugs — such as fexofenadine (Allegra)
- Drugs for high cholesterol — such as lovastatin (Mevacor, Altocor)
- Anti-anxiety drugs — including alprazolam (Xanax), diazepam (Valium), and lorazepam (Ativan)
- Antiplatelet and anticoagulant drugs (blood thinners) — including clopidogrel (Plavix) and warfarin (Coumadin)
- Some cancer drugs
Acetaminophen-containing MedicationsAntipsychotic MedicationsAspirinCyclosporineDoxorubicinPhenytoin-containing Medications
Milk Thistle; Silybum marianum; St. Mary’s Thistle
- Reviewed last on: 6/13/2007
- Steven D. Ehrlich, N.M.D., private practice specializing in complementary and alternative medicine, Phoenix, AZ. Review provided by VeriMed Healthcare Network.
Bacopa monnieri and Bacoside-A for ameliorating epilepsy associated behavioral deficits.
Centre for Neuroscience, Department of Biotechnology, Cochin University of Science and Technology, Cochin, Kerala, India.
Bacopa monnieri is an outstanding nervine tonic used for raising the mental performance. It helps in concentration, comprehension, recall and alertness, Brahmi is particularly beneficial as it aids in categorizing information in brain and its subsequent expression. Bacopa is also called as a natural antioxidant which may give details its neuroprotective role seen in the memory centers of the brain. Epilepsy is neuronal disorder characterized by learning, cognitive and memory impairments. The present review summarizes information concerning botany, chemistry and beneficial effect of Bacopa monnieri on epilepsy associated behavioral deficits.
Copyright 2009 Elsevier B.V. All rights reserved.